Practicing The Apache Way

[[Home|The Apache Way]] | [[All Groups|The Apache Way]] | [[Explore All Scenarios]] | (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

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(set: $here to "Explore All Scenarios") ''Explore All Scenarios'' //Tip: press Ctrl/Cmd + F to find by title.// {A–E} * [[Ambiguous Vote Scope->Ambiguous Vote Scope]] * [[Cross-List Release Vote Confusion->Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] * [[Delayed Mentor Escalation->Delayed Mentor Escalation]] * [[Conflicting Mentor Advice->Conflicting Mentor Advice]] * [[Cultural Misunderstanding->Cultural Misunderstanding]] * [[Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum->Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] * [[Branding Confusion->Branding Confusion]] * [[Brand and Governance Blur->Brand and Governance Blur]] * [[Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change->Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] {F–J} * [[Handling Contributor Data->Handling Contributor Data]] * [[Improving the Incubation Experience->Improving the Incubation Experience]] {K–O} * [[Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong->Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] * [[Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons->Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] * [[Mentor Dependency->Mentor Dependency]] * [[Missing License Headers->Missing License Headers]] * [[Lessons Not Shared->Lessons Not Shared]] * [[Mentor Growth->Mentor Growth]] {P–T} * [[The Off-List Decision->The Off-List Decision]] * [[The Silent Mentor->The Silent Mentor]] * [[The Over-Involved Mentor->The Over-Involved Mentor]] * [[The Conflicted PPMC->The Conflicted PPMC]] * [[The Unreliable Narrator->The Unreliable Narrator]] * [[The Glossed-Over Report->The Glossed-Over Report]] * [[The Heated Thread->The Heated Thread]] * [[Private Discussions and Missing Context->Private Discussions and Missing Context]] * [[The Single-Maintainer Risk->The Single-Maintainer Risk]] * [[The Employer-Dominated Podling->The Employer-Dominated Podling]] * [[Quiet Lists, Fading Energy->Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] * [[The Overlooked Contributor->The Overlooked Contributor]] * [[The Reluctant Leader->The Reluctant Leader]] * [[Ready… or Rushed?->Ready… or Rushed?]] * [[The Graduation Vote->The Graduation Vote]] * [[The Graduation Surprise->The Graduation Surprise]] * [[Release Hygiene in Practice->Release Hygiene in Practice]] * [[The Disappearing Mentor->The Disappearing Mentor]] * [[The Dormant TLP->The Dormant TLP]] {U–Z} * [[Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC->Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] * [[Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure->Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]]

(set: $here to "Introduction") (size:1.8)[Practicing The Apache Way] Discover how Apache communities learn to govern themselves through collaboration, consensus, and transparency. These short scenarios show how podlings apply ASF culture in everyday decisions, from voting and branding to mentoring and community growth. [[Start Learning->The Apache Way]]

(set: $here to "Home") (size:1.8)[Understanding the Apache Way] Explore by topic area: * [[Voting and Consensus->Group: Voting and Consensus]] (~10 min) * [[Mentoring and Oversight->Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (~20–30 min) * [[Conflict Resolution and Communication->Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (~5–10 min) * [[Community Health and Growth->Group: Community Health and Growth]] (~15–20 min) * [[Podling Readiness and Graduation->Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (~10–15 min) * [[Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice->Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (~10–15 min) * [[Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability->Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (~5–10 min) * [[Reflection and Continuous Learning->Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (~5–10 min) * [[Explore All Scenarios]] (set: _cont to "") (set: _order to (a: "Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong", "Ambiguous Vote Scope", "Cross-List Release Vote Confusion", "The Off-List Decision", "The Silent Mentor", "The Over-Involved Mentor", "Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC", "The Conflicted PPMC", "The Unreliable Narrator", "The Glossed-Over Report", "Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure", "Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons", "Delayed Mentor Escalation", "Conflicting Mentor Advice", "The Heated Thread", "Private Discussions and Missing Context", "Cultural Misunderstanding", "The Single-Maintainer Risk", "The Employer-Dominated Podling", "Quiet Lists, Fading Energy", "The Overlooked Contributor", "The Reluctant Leader", "Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum", "Ready… or Rushed?", "Mentor Dependency", "The Graduation Vote", "The Graduation Surprise", "Branding Confusion", "Missing License Headers", "Handling Contributor Data", "Brand and Governance Blur", "Release Hygiene in Practice", "The Disappearing Mentor", "Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change", "The Dormant TLP", "Lessons Not Shared", "Mentor Growth", "Improving the Incubation Experience")) (for: each _t, ..._order)[(if: _cont is "")[ (if: not ((visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t)))[ (set: _cont to _t) ]]] {(if: _cont is not "")[ (link-goto: "Continue where I left off", _cont) ](else:)[ [[Begin again->Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] ]} (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Voting and Consensus") (size:1.6)[Voting and Consensus] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice voting and consensus in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~10–10 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong", "Ambiguous Vote Scope", "Cross-List Release Vote Confusion", "The Off-List Decision")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 4)) (if: _done is 4)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong->Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Ambiguous Vote Scope->Ambiguous Vote Scope]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Cross-List Release Vote Confusion->Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Off-List Decision->The Off-List Decision]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Mentoring and Oversight") (size:1.6)[Mentoring and Oversight] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice mentoring and oversight in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~20–30 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "The Silent Mentor", "The Over-Involved Mentor", "Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC", "The Conflicted PPMC", "The Unreliable Narrator", "The Glossed-Over Report", "Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure", "Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons", "Delayed Mentor Escalation", "Conflicting Mentor Advice")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 10)) (if: _done is 10)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Silent Mentor->The Silent Mentor]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Over-Involved Mentor->The Over-Involved Mentor]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC->Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Conflicted PPMC->The Conflicted PPMC]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Unreliable Narrator->The Unreliable Narrator]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Glossed-Over Report->The Glossed-Over Report]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure->Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons->Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Delayed Mentor Escalation->Delayed Mentor Escalation]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Conflicting Mentor Advice->Conflicting Mentor Advice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication") (size:1.6)[Conflict Resolution and Communication] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice conflict resolution and communication in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~5–10 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "The Heated Thread", "Private Discussions and Missing Context", "Cultural Misunderstanding")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 3)) (if: _done is 3)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Heated Thread->The Heated Thread]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Private Discussions and Missing Context->Private Discussions and Missing Context]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Cultural Misunderstanding->Cultural Misunderstanding]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Community Health and Growth") (size:1.6)[Community Health and Growth] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice community health and growth in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~15–20 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "The Single-Maintainer Risk", "The Employer-Dominated Podling", "Quiet Lists, Fading Energy", "The Overlooked Contributor", "The Reluctant Leader", "Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 6)) (if: _done is 6)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Single-Maintainer Risk->The Single-Maintainer Risk]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Employer-Dominated Podling->The Employer-Dominated Podling]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Quiet Lists, Fading Energy->Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Overlooked Contributor->The Overlooked Contributor]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Reluctant Leader->The Reluctant Leader]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum->Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation") (size:1.6)[Podling Readiness and Graduation] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice podling readiness and graduation in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~10–15 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "Ready… or Rushed?", "Mentor Dependency", "The Graduation Vote", "The Graduation Surprise")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 4)) (if: _done is 4)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Ready… or Rushed?->Ready… or Rushed?]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Mentor Dependency->Mentor Dependency]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Graduation Vote->The Graduation Vote]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Graduation Surprise->The Graduation Surprise]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice") (size:1.6)[Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice branding, legal, and privacy in practice in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~10–15 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "Branding Confusion", "Missing License Headers", "Handling Contributor Data", "Brand and Governance Blur", "Release Hygiene in Practice")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 5)) (if: _done is 5)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Branding Confusion->Branding Confusion]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Missing License Headers->Missing License Headers]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Handling Contributor Data->Handling Contributor Data]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Brand and Governance Blur->Brand and Governance Blur]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Release Hygiene in Practice->Release Hygiene in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability") (size:1.6)[Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice post-graduation and long-term sustainability in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~5–10 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "The Disappearing Mentor", "Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change", "The Dormant TLP")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 3)) (if: _done is 3)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Disappearing Mentor->The Disappearing Mentor]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change->Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[The Dormant TLP->The Dormant TLP]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning") (size:1.6)[Reflection and Continuous Learning] //Scenarios in this theme help you practice reflection and continuous learning in everyday ASF decision-making.// ''Estimated time:'': ~5–10 min [[◀ Back to All Groups|The Apache Way]] (set: _g to (a: "Lessons Not Shared", "Mentor Growth", "Improving the Incubation Experience")) (set: _done to 0) (for: each _t, ..._g)[(if: (visited: "Discuss: " + _t) and (visited: "Tips: " + _t))[ (set: _done to _done + 1) ]] (print: "Progress: " + (str: _done) + " / " + (str: 3)) (if: _done is 3)[ ✅ ''Module complete.'' You've finished this theme. ] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Lessons Not Shared->Lessons Not Shared]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Mentor Growth->Mentor Growth]] * (if: (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[✅] (else:)[◻] [[Improving the Incubation Experience->Improving the Incubation Experience]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") (size:1.5)[Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus A podling announced a major decision to merge two modules using lazy consensus . The email read: After three days, one mentor, who had been travelling, objected, saying the merge introduced licensing complications. By then, the code had already been merged and discussed in other channels. The mentor felt ignored, while the community felt blindsided by the late objection. The thread devolved into arguments about whether the decision was final and who had the right to reopen it. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] [[Next in Voting and Consensus ▶|Ambiguous Vote Scope]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What caused confusion about the lazy consensus process ? * How should the community respond when an objection comes after action has been taken? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[◀ Back to Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong|Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Reopen discussion to consider the objection and, if needed, revert the change. * In future, clearly state objection periods and follow up with a “no objections received” message to confirm consensus. * Mentors can model good practice by posting brief summary messages that confirm the outcome of lazy consensus discussions. [[◀ Back to Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong|Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Ambiguous Vote Scope") (size:1.5)[Ambiguous Vote Scope] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus A PPMC launched a vote on the dev@ list with the subject line: Some contributors treated it as a binding decision vote , while others saw it as an informal consensus check . After tallying the votes (+5, 0, -1), disagreement broke out over whether the result was binding and who counted as eligible voters. The ambiguity created mistrust; some thought the -1 blocked progress, while others argued it was only advisory. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] [[◀ Previous in Voting and Consensus|Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong]] [[Next in Voting and Consensus ▶|Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Ambiguous Vote Scope") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Ambiguous Vote Scope] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What steps could the PPMC have taken before starting the vote to make its scope and eligibility clear? * How can mentors model and teach consistent ASF voting practices to prevent confusion like this? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[◀ Back to Ambiguous Vote Scope|Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Ambiguous Vote Scope") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Ambiguous Vote Scope] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * The mentor can encourage the community to pause and revisit the discussion before treating the vote as final. * Remind the podling that consensus comes first, votes are used to confirm shared understanding, not to decide by majority. * For future threads, use clear subject tags and intent markers: [DISCUSS] for exploration and consensus building [VOTE] once agreement has been reached and the community is ready to record it [RESULT] to summarize the outcome and next steps * Encourage the PPMC to document their own conventions for using formal votes, emphasising that discussion precedes votes and confirms consensus. [[◀ Back to Ambiguous Vote Scope|Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") (size:1.5)[Cross-List Release Vote Confusion] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus A podling successfully held a release vote on its own dev@ list, reaching four binding +1s and no objections. Believing it was complete, the release manager published the artifacts and announced the result. A few days later, an IPMC member noticed the vote had never been mirrored to the general@incubator list for IPMC review and approval. The vote had to be repeated, and the release was withdrawn until the second round was completed. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] [[◀ Previous in Voting and Consensus|Ambiguous Vote Scope]] [[Next in Voting and Consensus ▶|The Off-List Decision]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Cross-List Release Vote Confusion] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why is it important to hold Incubator release votes on both the podling’s dev@ list and the general@incubator list? * How can mentors and PPMCs communicate clearly about which steps are required before declaring a vote result final? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Cross-List Release Vote Confusion|Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Cross-List Release Vote Confusion] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Retract the published release and announce the correction openly, explaining that the IPMC vote was missed. * Restart the vote on the dev@ list, then repeat it on general@incubator once the first passes. * Update the release checklist so both steps happen before announcing the result. [[◀ Back to Cross-List Release Vote Confusion|Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Off-List Decision") (size:1.5)[The Off-List Decision] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus A podling’s contributors discussed and agreed in a GitHub issue to change the project’s API design. The discussion appears to be settled, as everyone active on the repository has approved the change, and the pull request has been merged. A week later, a mentor notices there was no corresponding discussion or record on the dev@ list. When the topic is raised, some participants argue that “it was already agreed on in GitHub comments.” Others had never seen the conversation and felt excluded. The mentor reminds the community that ASF decisions need to be discussed and visible on the project’s public mailing list , not only in tools or private channels. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Off-List Decision]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Off-List Decision]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] [[◀ Previous in Voting and Consensus|Cross-List Release Vote Confusion]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Off-List Decision") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Off-List Decision] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why does making decisions off-list create problems for transparency and inclusion? * What makes the dev@ mailing list the canonical record of consensus at the ASF? * How can mentors and PPMCs help teams strike a balance between efficiency and accountability? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Off-List Decision]] [[◀ Back to The Off-List Decision|The Off-List Decision]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Off-List Decision") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Off-List Decision] ''Group:'' Voting and Consensus //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Reopen the discussion on the dev@ list, summarizing what was agreed elsewhere and inviting confirmation or objections. * Remind the community that “if it didn’t happen on the list, it didn’t happen”, mailing lists preserve institutional memory and visibility. * Encourage a short practice: when a decision or major merge happens off-list, post a recap email to document it. * Mentors can model this by regularly moving key discussions from chat, GitHub, or meetings back to the public list. [[◀ Back to The Off-List Decision|The Off-List Decision]] [[◀ Back to Voting and Consensus|Group: Voting and Consensus]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Silent Mentor") (size:1.5)[The Silent Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight A podling has been active for several months, with regular commits, discussions, and releases. However, one of its listed mentors hasn’t posted to the mailing list for nearly six months . When the quarterly report is due, the remaining mentors realize they’ve been the only ones signing off. The absent mentor’s name is still listed, but they haven’t responded to pings or voted on any releases. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Silent Mentor]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Silent Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|The Over-Involved Mentor]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Silent Mentor") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Silent Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What should the remaining mentors and PPMC do in this situation? * How might mentor inactivity affect podling oversight and readiness for graduation? * What steps can the IPMC take to ensure mentorship coverage stays healthy? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Silent Mentor]] [[◀ Back to The Silent Mentor|The Silent Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Silent Mentor") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Silent Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * The active mentors should contact the silent mentor privately to confirm whether they wish to continue. * If there’s no response, the PPMC can request that the IPMC retire the mentor and invite another with complementary skills. * Encourage periodic mentor check-ins, even brief “+1, still here” notes, to help maintain trust and visibility. [[◀ Back to The Silent Mentor|The Silent Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Over-Involved Mentor") (size:1.5)[The Over-Involved Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight One mentor has become the de facto leader of a podling. They initiate most discussions, determine priorities, and frequently merge pull requests without waiting for community review. Although everything appears to run smoothly, other contributors have become hesitant to disagree or suggest alternatives . The mentor’s good intentions have created quiet dependence rather than community independence. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|The Silent Mentor]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Over-Involved Mentor") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Over-Involved Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can the mentor recognize that their helpfulness might be limiting community growth? * What signs indicate that a podling is overly reliant on a single mentor or contributor? * How can the PPMC rebalance participation and decision-making? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[◀ Back to The Over-Involved Mentor|The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Over-Involved Mentor") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Over-Involved Mentor] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * The mentor can step back deliberately, prompting others to lead discussions or manage releases. * Rotate responsibilities so contributors gain experience in mailing list voting, reporting, and issue triage. * Mentors can shift to a coaching stance, asking questions instead of providing answers, to encourage community initiative. [[◀ Back to The Over-Involved Mentor|The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") (size:1.5)[Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight During a disagreement over release timing, a mentor tells the podling to “wait for my approval before proceeding.” Several PPMC members feel uneasy. They thought the project was supposed to be self-governing. The mentor later explains they only meant to ensure the ASF policy was followed, but the tone created confusion about authority. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|The Over-Involved Mentor]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|The Conflicted PPMC]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What distinguishes a mentor’s advisory role from a PPMC’s decision-making responsibility? * How can mentors provide guidance without appearing to overrule the community? * How should the PPMC respond when mentor instructions seem to conflict with self-governance? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC|Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Clarify on the mailing list that mentors provide advice, not final approval, and that decisions belong to the PPMC. * Encourage mentors to frame their guidance as “recommendations” or “ASF expectations,” rather than directives. * Use moments like this as learning opportunities, reaffirming that mentoring supports independence, not control. [[◀ Back to Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC|Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Conflicted PPMC") (size:1.5)[The Conflicted PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight Several active PPMC members work for the same company that initially proposed the podling. As the project matures, company goals start to influence community priorities , such as marketing deadlines, roadmap direction, or product integration timelines. Decisions on the dev@ list often mirror internal discussions, and other contributors hesitate to question them. When a mentor raises this concern, the PPMC insists that “everyone agrees internally,” but little discussion happens in public. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Conflicted PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|The Unreliable Narrator]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Conflicted PPMC") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Conflicted PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can PPMC members recognize when company interests are influencing project decisions? * What safeguards ensure that ASF projects remain independent of corporate agendas? * What role should mentors and the IPMC play in helping a community maintain neutral, consensus-based governance? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Conflicted PPMC]] [[◀ Back to The Conflicted PPMC|The Conflicted PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Conflicted PPMC") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Conflicted PPMC] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Encourage all technical and strategic discussions to take place publicly on the mailing list, regardless of any prior internal agreements. * When posting on behalf of an employer, clarify whose view you represent and invite others to comment openly. * Rotate release managers, vote initiators, and report drafters to ensure shared ownership beyond a single organization. * Mentors can remind the community that ASF projects operate by public consensus, not by company alignment. Corporate support is welcome, but direction comes from the community. * If necessary, the PPMC or IPMC can invite new contributors from outside the company to broaden participation and strengthen neutrality. [[◀ Back to The Conflicted PPMC|The Conflicted PPMC]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Unreliable Narrator") (size:1.5)[The Unreliable Narrator] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight During several community discussions, a mentor and two PPMC members consistently argue for a particular technical direction. Later, it is discovered that all three work for the same company, which plans to integrate the feature into its product. Their affiliation wasn’t concealed but was never clearly stated in the relevant threads or votes . New contributors assumed the support was broad and independent. When this is raised, the individuals insist they were “just speaking as community members.” The incident damages trust and prompts a wider discussion about disclosure and transparency. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Unreliable Narrator]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|The Conflicted PPMC]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|The Glossed-Over Report]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Unreliable Narrator") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Unreliable Narrator] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why is it important to disclose company or organizational affiliations in ASF communities? * How can mentors model transparent communication when their employer also has a stake in the project? * What happens when affiliations aren’t clear and influence perceptions of consensus or neutrality? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Unreliable Narrator]] [[◀ Back to The Unreliable Narrator|The Unreliable Narrator]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Unreliable Narrator") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Unreliable Narrator] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Encourage contributors to disclose relevant affiliations in threads where corporate interests may overlap, as this supports the perception of neutrality. * Remind everyone that consensus depends on clarity. The ASF expects decisions to be community-driven, not company-directed. * If confusion arises, clarify on-list to restore trust and reaffirm that votes and discussions represent individual opinions, not those of employers. * Use moments like this to reinforce vendor neutrality as part of the ASF’s governance culture. [[◀ Back to The Unreliable Narrator|The Unreliable Narrator]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Glossed-Over Report") (size:1.5)[The Glossed-Over Report] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight A podling submits its quarterly report, describing the community as “active and healthy,” which highlights several releases and broad participation. Mentors and IPMC members, however, are aware that mailing list traffic has decreased, and contributor engagement has been inconsistent. When asked, the PPMC explains that they “didn’t want to sound negative” in a public report. Mentors remind the community that reports are not public relations statements; they are a core part of the ASF’s oversight and learning process. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Glossed-Over Report]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|The Unreliable Narrator]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Glossed-Over Report") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Glossed-Over Report] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why must podling reports reflect reality, not just optimism? * What responsibilities do mentors and the PPMC share for ensuring accurate reporting? * How can mentors help communities be open about problems without fear of criticism? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Glossed-Over Report]] [[◀ Back to The Glossed-Over Report|The Glossed-Over Report]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Glossed-Over Report") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Glossed-Over Report] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Reiterate that reports are for transparency, not promotion, and accurate information allows the IPMC to provide timely help. * Mentors should review draft reports and confirm that they represent the entire picture, including any challenges. * If a report omits serious issues, mentors can follow up on the mailing list and suggest corrections or clarifications. * Encourage the PPMC to discuss concerns openly before each report, so potential problems are recognized and documented early. * Reports should accurately reflect reality, including any problems, and should not be generated by AI. [[◀ Back to The Glossed-Over Report|The Glossed-Over Report]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") (size:1.5)[Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight In one podling, contributors became frustrated when requests to set up mailing lists and publish the website took longer than expected. Some members complained that ASF Infrastructure was “blocking” progress and proposed creating external systems to work around delays. Mentors reminded the community that ASF Infrastructure is a shared service supporting all projects. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|The Glossed-Over Report]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can a podling plan Infra requests so their timelines don’t delay progress? * What’s the right way to communicate status and unblock work without creating policy or branding problems? * How can mentors model respectful collaboration with Infrastructure while keeping the podling moving? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[◀ Back to Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure|Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * File Infra tickets early and track them transparently. * Post brief status summaries to the dev@ list so everyone understands sequencing and lead times. * Avoid external “workarounds”; if truly necessary, discuss impacts with mentors first. [[◀ Back to Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure|Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") (size:1.5)[Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight In one podling proposal, mentors were added late in the process. Some were added because they were well-known ASF Members or worked for the same company as the proposers , rather than because they had the time or interest to mentor. Once the project entered incubation, those mentors were largely inactive, leaving the podling without needed guidance on releases, community building, and ASF processes. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|Delayed Mentor Escalation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What criteria should be used when selecting mentors for a new proposal? * How can the IPMC ensure mentors understand and commit to their responsibilities before a vote? * What should podlings do if a mentor is unresponsive or lacks relevant experience? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[◀ Back to Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons|Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Choose mentors based on their engagement, availability, and complementary experience, viewing mentorship as an active commitment rather than a title. * Encourage proposers to work with potential mentors early, before the proposal vote, to confirm mutual understanding. * If a mentor is inactive, the podling should raise the issue on the incubator list and request a replacement through the normal process. [[◀ Back to Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons|Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Delayed Mentor Escalation") (size:1.5)[Delayed Mentor Escalation] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight In one podling, mentors noticed that activity had slowed, releases were overdue, and a few individuals dominated discussions. Although these issues persisted for several quarters, the podling did not report them. The mentors hesitated to raise them with the Incubator PMC, hoping the community would recover on its own . When the podling later proposed graduation, the IPMC was surprised to learn about the extent of the problems, and the vote was postponed pending corrective action. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons]] [[Next in Mentoring and Oversight ▶|Conflicting Mentor Advice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Delayed Mentor Escalation") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Delayed Mentor Escalation] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * When should mentors escalate persistent issues to the IPMC, and what kinds of problems warrant early discussion? * How can mentors balance supporting the podling privately with keeping the wider Incubator community informed? * What mechanisms exist to help mentors share concerns without damaging community trust? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation]] [[◀ Back to Delayed Mentor Escalation|Delayed Mentor Escalation]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Delayed Mentor Escalation") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Delayed Mentor Escalation] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Mentors should inform the IPMC promptly when a podling exhibits sustained inactivity, release delays, or governance issues. * Use private@incubator for sensitive concerns and general@incubator for public awareness and guidance. * Encourage the PPMC to document challenges transparently in reports so the IPMC can assist before issues become critical. * Treat escalation as part of responsible mentorship, not as failure. Timely communication helps protect both the podling and the wider community. [[◀ Back to Delayed Mentor Escalation|Delayed Mentor Escalation]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Conflicting Mentor Advice") (size:1.5)[Conflicting Mentor Advice] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight In one podling, mentors offered conflicting guidance on key incubation steps . One mentor told the community to proceed with a release candidate, while another advised waiting for additional license review. The podling, unsure which direction to follow, paused work and sought clarification on the incubator mailing list. The inconsistent advice created confusion and slowed progress until the mentors and the IPMC clarified expectations together. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] [[◀ Previous in Mentoring and Oversight|Delayed Mentor Escalation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Conflicting Mentor Advice") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Conflicting Mentor Advice] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can mentors coordinate to ensure their guidance is consistent and aligned with ASF policy? * What should a podling do when mentors provide conflicting or unclear guidance? * How can the IPMC help maintain a shared understanding of policies and mentor responsibilities? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice]] [[◀ Back to Conflicting Mentor Advice|Conflicting Mentor Advice]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Conflicting Mentor Advice") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Conflicting Mentor Advice] ''Group:'' Mentoring and Oversight //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Mentors should communicate regularly with each other and with the IPMC to stay aligned on ASF practices. * When uncertain, mentors should confirm their interpretation on the incubator list before advising the podling. * Podlings should feel free to ask for clarification on general@incubator when advice appears inconsistent. * Consistent, transparent communication between mentors prevents confusion and helps the podling learn The Apache Way more effectively. [[◀ Back to Conflicting Mentor Advice|Conflicting Mentor Advice]] [[◀ Back to Mentoring and Oversight|Group: Mentoring and Oversight]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Heated Thread") (size:1.5)[The Heated Thread] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication A technical debate over the project’s build system turns personal. Two contributors begin trading sharp remarks on the mailing list, each insisting their approach is correct. Other participants go silent, uncertain how to respond. After several days, the discussion ends abruptly, but one contributor stops participating altogether. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Heated Thread]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Heated Thread]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] [[Next in Conflict Resolution and Communication ▶|Private Discussions and Missing Context]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Heated Thread") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Heated Thread] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How should community members respond when a discussion starts to become personal or hostile? * What can mentors or PPMC members do to de-escalate a heated thread without taking sides? * How can the project repair trust after conflict? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Heated Thread]] [[◀ Back to The Heated Thread|The Heated Thread]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Heated Thread") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Heated Thread] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Acknowledge the tension and steer the conversation back to technical facts rather than personalities. * Remind participants that ASF discussions must remain respectful and public, focusing on ideas rather than individuals. * Reach out privately (if appropriate) to the inactive contributor to check in and invite them back into a calmer, structured discussion. * Summarize lessons learned in a closing email, showing transparency and reinforcing good communication norms. [[◀ Back to The Heated Thread|The Heated Thread]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Private Discussions and Missing Context") (size:1.5)[Private Discussions and Missing Context] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication A small group of contributors regularly discuss project direction in a private chat channel. Decisions are sometimes made there, then later announced on the mailing list. Other community members feel excluded and confused, unsure when or how these decisions were made . When a mentor raises the issue, the group says, “We were just being efficient.” [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] [[◀ Previous in Conflict Resolution and Communication|The Heated Thread]] [[Next in Conflict Resolution and Communication ▶|Cultural Misunderstanding]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Private Discussions and Missing Context") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Private Discussions and Missing Context] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why does making decisions in private channels undermine ASF transparency? * How can mentors help the community move private discussions back to public spaces? * What habits or tools can reinforce open communication? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context]] [[◀ Back to Private Discussions and Missing Context|Private Discussions and Missing Context]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Private Discussions and Missing Context") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Private Discussions and Missing Context] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Encourage the group to summarize any private discussion on the mailing list, capturing the key points and rationale. * Reinforce the ASF principle that “if it didn’t happen on the list, it didn’t happen.” * Normalize brief summaries, even short recaps help keep everyone informed. * Mentors can help set a respectful tone by acknowledging efficiency concerns while reinforcing the long-term value of public archives for learning and accountability. [[◀ Back to Private Discussions and Missing Context|Private Discussions and Missing Context]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Cultural Misunderstanding") (size:1.5)[Cultural Misunderstanding] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication A contributor from one region tends to write brief, direct comments that others interpret as rude or dismissive. In turn, they feel frustrated that their efficiency is being criticized. The mailing list begins showing subtle tension, with people responding less or avoiding reviews from that person. A mentor notices and suspects it’s more a cultural difference than a personal conflict. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] [[◀ Previous in Conflict Resolution and Communication|Private Discussions and Missing Context]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Cultural Misunderstanding") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Cultural Misunderstanding] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can cultural norms around communication lead to misunderstanding in a global community? * What can mentors and PPMCs do to surface and address these issues early? * How can the project accommodate diverse communication styles while maintaining respect? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding]] [[◀ Back to Cultural Misunderstanding|Cultural Misunderstanding]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Cultural Misunderstanding") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Cultural Misunderstanding] ''Group:'' Conflict Resolution and Communication //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Raise the issue gently on the mailing list or in a private note, framing it as a shared learning opportunity rather than a personal fault. * Encourage contributors to assume good faith and ask clarifying questions when tone seems unclear. * Add a short “communication norms” section to the podling’s wiki or README, reflecting the team’s diversity and shared expectations for tone and communication . * Mentors can model inclusive phrasing and remind everyone that written tone varies across cultures. [[◀ Back to Cultural Misunderstanding|Cultural Misunderstanding]] [[◀ Back to Conflict Resolution and Communication|Group: Conflict Resolution and Communication]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Single-Maintainer Risk") (size:1.5)[The Single-Maintainer Risk] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth A podling’s activity appears strong, with regular commits, quick pull-request merges, and responsive issue triage. However, nearly all of it is coming from one person. That contributor is also the release manager and primary reviewer. When they take a short break, the project slows dramatically, and open PRs pile up. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[Next in Community Health and Growth ▶|The Employer-Dominated Podling]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Single-Maintainer Risk") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Single-Maintainer Risk] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What risks does heavy reliance on one person create for a podling’s sustainability? * How can mentors and the PPMC encourage broader participation and shared ownership? * What signals should the IPMC look for before graduation? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[◀ Back to The Single-Maintainer Risk|The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Single-Maintainer Risk") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Single-Maintainer Risk] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Identify areas where others can contribute, such as documentation, testing, website updates, or triage, to lower barriers to participation. * Invite frequent contributors to take on small responsibilities, like summarizing votes or drafting reports. * Use release and review rotations to build experience across multiple people. * Mentors can highlight the ASF goal of ‘community over code’. Long-term health depends on shared responsibility, not individual productivity. * Identify areas where others can contribute, such as documentation, testing, website updates, or triage, and encourage participation in those areas to lower barriers to entry. [[◀ Back to The Single-Maintainer Risk|The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Employer-Dominated Podling") (size:1.5)[The Employer-Dominated Podling] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth Most active committers on a podling are employed by the same company. Their employer provides infrastructure, funding, and time to work on the project, which has been essential to early success. However, external contributors have begun to withdraw, saying they don’t feel their input is valued or that decisions are being made internally. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[◀ Previous in Community Health and Growth|The Single-Maintainer Risk]] [[Next in Community Health and Growth ▶|Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Employer-Dominated Podling") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Employer-Dominated Podling] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can a podling strike a balance between valuable corporate support and the need for independent community governance? * What signs show that a project’s culture is vendor-dominated rather than community-driven? * How can mentors help the PPMC create more neutral ground for decision-making? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[◀ Back to The Employer-Dominated Podling|The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Employer-Dominated Podling") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Employer-Dominated Podling] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Encourage the company to clarify that participation is open to all and decisions are made publicly. * Highlight contributions from outside organizations and recognize them in reports or release notes. * Use mailing lists for all decisions, avoiding private coordination channels that reinforce internal control. * Mentors can help explain the value of vendor neutrality and why it’s essential for graduation. [[◀ Back to The Employer-Dominated Podling|The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") (size:1.5)[Quiet Lists, Fading Energy] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth A once-active podling has grown quiet. Commits are infrequent, mailing-list traffic has dropped, and reports often arrive late. A few contributors say they’re busy with other projects, but no new participants are joining. Mentors worry the community may be losing momentum, but don’t want to overstep or discourage the team. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[◀ Previous in Community Health and Growth|The Employer-Dominated Podling]] [[Next in Community Health and Growth ▶|The Overlooked Contributor]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Quiet Lists, Fading Energy] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What early indicators suggest a community’s energy is fading? * How can mentors and PPMCs re-ignite participation without taking over? * When does it make sense to seek help from the IPMC or the wider ASF community? * How should mentors handle situations where revitalization attempts don’t succeed? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[◀ Back to Quiet Lists, Fading Energy|Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Quiet Lists, Fading Energy] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Start a discussion on the dev@ list about the podling’s goals, roadmap, and any blockers to progress. * Revisit public plans or documentation to identify tasks that could attract new contributors. * Celebrate small wins, merged PRs, documentation updates, or test improvements, to rebuild momentum. * If sustained participation cannot be regained after a sincere effort, mentors should initiate an open discussion about retirement on the mailing list. * Treat retirement as a neutral outcome, not a failure: it preserves transparency, honors past work, and leaves the door open for future revival. [[◀ Back to Quiet Lists, Fading Energy|Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Overlooked Contributor") (size:1.5)[The Overlooked Contributor] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth A new contributor submits several thoughtful pull requests and posts introductions on the dev@ list, but receives little or no response. A few weeks later, they stop engaging. When mentors review project activity, they notice several first-time contributors who never returned. The community has been busy with releases and technical work, but no one has been ensuring newcomers are acknowledged or guided toward deeper involvement. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Overlooked Contributor]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[◀ Previous in Community Health and Growth|Quiet Lists, Fading Energy]] [[Next in Community Health and Growth ▶|The Reluctant Leader]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Overlooked Contributor") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Overlooked Contributor] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What signals show that new contributors are being welcomed or overlooked? * How can the community ensure that contributions receive timely and public acknowledgment? * What small steps can mentors or committers take to lower the barrier from “first PR” to “regular contributor”? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Overlooked Contributor]] [[◀ Back to The Overlooked Contributor|The Overlooked Contributor]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Overlooked Contributor") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Overlooked Contributor] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Create a simple new contributor checklist : respond on-list to first-time posts, acknowledge contributors by name, and link them to starter issues. * Rotate “review buddy” duties so experienced committers respond quickly to new PRs. * Include first-time contributors in release or report summaries to recognize their efforts publicly. * Encourage mentors to model an inclusive tone and brief, welcoming replies on the mailing list, setting stronger norms than formal rules. [[◀ Back to The Overlooked Contributor|The Overlooked Contributor]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Reluctant Leader") (size:1.5)[The Reluctant Leader] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth A podling enters incubation with an established codebase and a long-time maintainer who founded the project. The community appreciates their expertise and historical knowledge, but over time, most key decisions still depend on this individual’s approval. When others raise ideas or concerns, they often defer, saying, “Let’s wait for the founder’s input.” Mailing list discussions stall until that person responds. Mentors notice that votes are unanimous, but only after the founder states their opinion first. The pattern appears cooperative, but genuine consensus never forms, the project still follows a single voice. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Reluctant Leader]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Reluctant Leader]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[◀ Previous in Community Health and Growth|The Overlooked Contributor]] [[Next in Community Health and Growth ▶|Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Reluctant Leader") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Reluctant Leader] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why can pre-existing leadership structures make it hard for a community to transition to ASF-style governance? * How can mentors and the PPMC encourage shared ownership without alienating the project’s original leaders? * What signals show that decision-making is still centered on an individual rather than the community? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Reluctant Leader]] [[◀ Back to The Reluctant Leader|The Reluctant Leader]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Reluctant Leader") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Reluctant Leader] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Acknowledge the founder’s experience and invite them to mentor others in shared decision-making. * Encourage others to lead discussions and participate in votes so that authority is more evenly shared. * Mentors can model consensus-building by asking open questions instead of deferring to one person’s view. * If patterns persist, mentors and the PPMC should document them in reports and discuss ways to promote independence. [[◀ Back to The Reluctant Leader|The Reluctant Leader]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") (size:1.5)[Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth In one podling, most development, reviews, and releases were handled by employees of a single sponsoring company. When that sponsor changed priorities and reassigned staff, project activity quickly declined. Mailing list traffic slowed, releases stalled, and mentors raised concerns about the project's sustainability. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] [[◀ Previous in Community Health and Growth|The Reluctant Leader]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What signals indicate that a podling’s activity depends too heavily on one employer? * How can a podling spread knowledge of releases, infrastructure, and governance across multiple contributors? * What should mentors encourage before, during, and after a sponsor steps back? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] [[◀ Back to Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum|Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum] ''Group:'' Community Health and Growth //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Identify single-person or single-employer bottlenecks and rotate responsibilities such as reviews, releases, and website updates to spread knowledge and reduce risk. * Invite frequent contributors to take on discrete tasks and document processes openly so new people can step in. * Acknowledge the change in quarterly reports, outline mitigation steps, and track whether participation diversifies over time. [[◀ Back to Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum|Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum]] [[◀ Back to Community Health and Growth|Group: Community Health and Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Ready… or Rushed?") (size:1.5)[Ready… or Rushed?] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation A podling’s main sponsor suggests it should graduate quickly to improve its reputation and attract new users. Several PPMC members agree, saying, “We’ve had two releases, we’re done.” However, mentors notice that most votes and reports still depend on their prompting. When asked how the community plans to manage new committer elections or governance transitions, silence follows. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Ready… or Rushed?]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] [[Next in Podling Readiness and Graduation ▶|Mentor Dependency]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Ready… or Rushed?") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Ready… or Rushed?] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What signs show that a podling is genuinely ready to graduate? * Why can rushing graduation harm both the project and the Foundation? * How can mentors guide a conversation about readiness without discouraging enthusiasm? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Ready… or Rushed?]] [[◀ Back to Ready… or Rushed?|Ready… or Rushed?]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Ready… or Rushed?") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Ready… or Rushed?] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Encourage the PPMC to perform a self-assessment using the Podling Maturity Model to evaluate readiness against ASF criteria. * Celebrate progress but discuss what independence looks like in practice, regular votes, self-managed releases, and community-led reports. * Frame graduation not as a deadline, but as the natural result of demonstrated maturity. * Mentors can share examples of successful graduations where the community already operated as a PMC before the vote. [[◀ Back to Ready… or Rushed?|Ready… or Rushed?]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Mentor Dependency") (size:1.5)[Mentor Dependency] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation Even after more than a year in incubation, a podling still relies heavily on mentors to drive votes, file reports, and interpret ASF rules. Most contributors focus on coding; a few participate in governance tasks. When mentors pause for a few weeks, the project stalls. Mentors are concerned that their presence may be masking a lack of community confidence. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Mentor Dependency]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentor Dependency]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] [[◀ Previous in Podling Readiness and Graduation|Ready… or Rushed?]] [[Next in Podling Readiness and Graduation ▶|The Graduation Vote]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Mentor Dependency") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Mentor Dependency] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can mentors tell when their guidance has become dependency? * What steps can a podling take to build governance confidence among its own members? * How can the community gradually assume more responsibility before graduation? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentor Dependency]] [[◀ Back to Mentor Dependency|Mentor Dependency]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Mentor Dependency") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Mentor Dependency] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Mentors can step back strategically, delaying responses to allow podling members to answer questions or call votes. * Encourage rotation of report drafting and release management among PPMC members. * Use mentoring opportunities to explain why ASF processes exist, not just how to follow them. * When the community can handle ASF processes without mentor intervention, graduation readiness is usually near. [[◀ Back to Mentor Dependency|Mentor Dependency]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Graduation Vote") (size:1.5)[The Graduation Vote] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation After months of preparation, a podling submits its graduation resolution to the Incubator PMC for a vote. Most responses are +1, but one IPMC member objects, claiming “the community is still too small.” The podling feels frustrated. They’ve followed every step, have a working governance model, and just completed a successful release. Mentors wonder how to strike a balance between encouraging and respecting IPMC oversight. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Graduation Vote]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Graduation Vote]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] [[◀ Previous in Podling Readiness and Graduation|Mentor Dependency]] [[Next in Podling Readiness and Graduation ▶|The Graduation Surprise]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Graduation Vote") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Graduation Vote] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What is the IPMC’s role in graduation decisions, and how can mentors assist the podling in navigating this process? * How can the community respond constructively to objections? * What can be learned from a delayed or re-voted graduation? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Graduation Vote]] [[◀ Back to The Graduation Vote|The Graduation Vote]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Graduation Vote") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Graduation Vote] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Discuss the concerns openly on the general incubator list, asking for specific reasons and suggestions for improvement. * Treat the feedback as part of the learning process, not as rejection. * Update the graduation resolution or reports to address any gaps, then resubmit when ready. * Mentors can remind the community that graduation is confirmed by consensus, and sometimes consensus takes more than one vote. [[◀ Back to The Graduation Vote|The Graduation Vote]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Graduation Surprise") (size:1.5)[The Graduation Surprise] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation A podling submits its graduation resolution after months of preparation and receives mostly positive feedback. Then, during the vote, an IPMC member raises a concern that catches the community off guard: it appears that a company involved in the project is misusing its brand. The podling feels frustrated, wondering why these issues are surfacing only now. Mentors realize that although the podling had matured, a few key steps were assumed rather than verified. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Graduation Surprise]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Graduation Surprise]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] [[◀ Previous in Podling Readiness and Graduation|The Graduation Vote]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Graduation Surprise") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Graduation Surprise] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why do unexpected issues sometimes appear during graduation votes? * How can mentors and PPMCs anticipate and address these before the resolution is submitted? * What does this reveal about shared responsibility between mentors, the IPMC, and the podling community? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Graduation Surprise]] [[◀ Back to The Graduation Surprise|The Graduation Surprise]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Graduation Surprise") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Graduation Surprise] ''Group:'' Podling Readiness and Graduation //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Treat surprises as learning opportunities rather than failures. Graduation readiness is about transparency, not perfection. * Before submitting a resolution, review past reports, mentor sign-offs, and branding and license audits together as a final checklist. * Encourage mentors to raise potential concerns early and publicly, not only during votes. * If a new issue surfaces, pause the vote, address it collaboratively, and resubmit once consensus is rebuilt. * Document lessons learned in the final graduation report to help future podlings avoid the same surprise. [[◀ Back to The Graduation Surprise|The Graduation Surprise]] [[◀ Back to Podling Readiness and Graduation|Group: Podling Readiness and Graduation]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Branding Confusion") (size:1.5)[Branding Confusion] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice A podling announces a release on social media as “1.0 is out!” The tweet omits “Apache” and “(incubating).” Shortly after, a mentor reminds the community that this could mislead users into thinking the project is already a full Apache TLP. Some contributors argue it’s “just marketing.” [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Branding Confusion]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Branding Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] [[Next in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice ▶|Missing License Headers]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Branding Confusion") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Branding Confusion] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why does accurate naming matter for ASF and for the project’s credibility? * How should the community address public posts or materials that fail to include required branding? * How can projects balance enthusiasm with responsibility when promoting their work? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Branding Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Branding Confusion|Branding Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Branding Confusion") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Branding Confusion] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Acknowledge the error publicly and repost using the correct form: “Apache Foo (incubating) 1.0 released.” * Update social-media bios, README files, and websites to use consistent ASF branding. * Remind the community that consistent and accurate naming protects both the project’s credibility and the ASF’s trademark integrity. * Treat branding checks as part of the release verification and graduation readiness process. [[◀ Back to Branding Confusion|Branding Confusion]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Missing License Headers") (size:1.5)[Missing License Headers] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice During a release vote, an IPMC reviewer notices several new source files lack license headers. Developers respond that they used snippets from Stack Overflow and forgot to add the ASF header. The release manager is unsure whether this requires a new RC or just a fix in-place. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Missing License Headers]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Missing License Headers]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] [[◀ Previous in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Branding Confusion]] [[Next in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice ▶|Handling Contributor Data]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Missing License Headers") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Missing License Headers] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why must every source file have a clear license header and provenance? * What risks arise from using third-party code without confirming its license? * How can the podling build habits to prevent this issue in future releases? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Missing License Headers]] [[◀ Back to Missing License Headers|Missing License Headers]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Missing License Headers") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Missing License Headers] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Pause the release vote and create a new release candidate with corrected headers. * Verify that any external code snippets are under compatible licenses and correctly attributed. * Use Apache RAT and add a simple “license-check” script or CI step to flag missing headers before tagging a release. * Use the experience to strengthen awareness of ASF’s licensing and NOTICE requirements. [[◀ Back to Missing License Headers|Missing License Headers]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Handling Contributor Data") (size:1.5)[Handling Contributor Data] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice A podling launches a user survey to guide roadmap priorities. The form asks for names, email addresses, and company affiliations. A mentor asks whether this complies with ASF privacy policy. The team hadn’t considered that even temporary storage of this data creates obligations for consent and retention. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Handling Contributor Data]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Handling Contributor Data]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] [[◀ Previous in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Missing License Headers]] [[Next in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice ▶|Brand and Governance Blur]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Handling Contributor Data") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Handling Contributor Data] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What personal data does the ASF consider sensitive, and why must it be handled carefully? * How can projects collect feedback responsibly while respecting ASF privacy expectations? * What should a podling do if it has already collected data without a clear consent statement? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Handling Contributor Data]] [[◀ Back to Handling Contributor Data|Handling Contributor Data]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Handling Contributor Data") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Handling Contributor Data] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Review the ASF Privacy Principles and remove or anonymize any stored personal data, collecting only what’s essential in future surveys. * If feedback is needed, redesign the survey to avoid collecting identifiable information, or make personal fields optional * Add a short privacy notice explaining how data will be used and for how long it will be retained. * Share lessons learned on the dev@ list so everyone understands the ASF’s privacy culture. [[◀ Back to Handling Contributor Data|Handling Contributor Data]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Brand and Governance Blur") (size:1.5)[Brand and Governance Blur] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice A podling’s primary corporate sponsor publishes a press release and social media posts describing the project as “an open source initiative by Company X” , using graphics that closely resemble the ASF logo. The announcement omits the “Apache (incubating)” name. When mentors raise the issue, company representatives respond that this approach is “perfectly fine” because it promotes both the company and the project. The mentors are concerned that this blurs the project’s independence and confuses the project’s relationship with the ASF. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Brand and Governance Blur]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] [[◀ Previous in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Handling Contributor Data]] [[Next in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice ▶|Release Hygiene in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Brand and Governance Blur") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Brand and Governance Blur] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why does ASF branding and naming accuracy matter for project independence and public trust? * How can mentors and PPMC members respond when a company’s promotion blurs project governance or identity? * What practices help maintain a clear boundary between corporate marketing and ASF community communication? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Brand and Governance Blur]] [[◀ Back to Brand and Governance Blur|Brand and Governance Blur]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Brand and Governance Blur") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Brand and Governance Blur] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Acknowledge the issue publicly and post a corrected statement using the full project name: Apache Foo (incubating). * Engage with the company privately to explain that accurate ASF branding and neutral representation are essential for community credibility. * Review the project’s website, social media, and README to ensure consistent ASF-compliant naming and disclaimers. * Encourage mentors to reinforce that the ASF owns all Apache brands and that corporate promotion should highlight participation, not control. [[◀ Back to Brand and Governance Blur|Brand and Governance Blur]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Release Hygiene in Practice") (size:1.5)[Release Hygiene in Practice] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice During a release vote, an IPMC member notices several issues in the release candidate: unsigned artifacts and missing DISCLAIMER and NOTICE files. The release manager explains that these steps were skipped “to save time” and that the podling will fix them next time. Mentors step in to explain that these are not optional details, they are part of ASF’s legal and quality framework. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] [[◀ Previous in Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Brand and Governance Blur]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Release Hygiene in Practice") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Release Hygiene in Practice] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why is release hygiene essential to ASF credibility and trust? * How can mentors help the community treat release preparation as a shared responsibility rather than a single person’s task? * What practical tools or checklists can help prevent these issues in future releases? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice]] [[◀ Back to Release Hygiene in Practice|Release Hygiene in Practice]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Release Hygiene in Practice") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Release Hygiene in Practice] ''Group:'' Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Pause the vote and work with the community to correct the issues, creating a new release candidate that meets ASF standards. * Add a simple release checklist to the project’s wiki or repository, covering signatures, licenses, disclaimers, and vote announcements. * Encourage multiple people to participate in release preparation so knowledge and responsibility are shared. * Incorporate release verification tools such as Apache RAT and automated license checks into the project’s build process. [[◀ Back to Release Hygiene in Practice|Release Hygiene in Practice]] [[◀ Back to Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice|Group: Branding, Legal, and Privacy in Practice]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Disappearing Mentor") (size:1.5)[The Disappearing Mentor] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability A project has recently graduated and is proud of its new PMC. Several mentors who had guided the podling during incubation were invited to stay involved, but quietly stepped away after graduation. Soon, new committers join who have never interacted with any of the original mentors or learned from their context. The community worries about losing continuity and institutional memory. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Disappearing Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] [[Next in Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability ▶|Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Disappearing Mentor") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Disappearing Mentor] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can a newly graduated project retain knowledge and cultural continuity after mentors step back? * What documentation or onboarding practices help preserve lessons from incubation? * How can former mentors continue supporting the project without overshadowing it? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Disappearing Mentor]] [[◀ Back to The Disappearing Mentor|The Disappearing Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Disappearing Mentor") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Disappearing Mentor] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Before graduation, ensure that key processes (releases, voting, reporting) are documented in the project’s own wiki or site. * Invite former mentors to share short “handover” notes summarizing what worked well during incubation. * Maintain continuity by pairing experienced committers with newcomers for onboarding. * Treat mentor withdrawal as a healthy sign of independence, while ensuring that knowledge remains accessible. [[◀ Back to The Disappearing Mentor|The Disappearing Mentor]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") (size:1.5)[Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability A long-time committer who served as the first PMC chair decides to step down due to personal commitments. While the PMC supports the decision, no one feels confident taking over. Some members suggest asking the former chair to continue for ‘just a bit longer.’ The ASF Board liaison reminds them that the chair’s role is administrative, not one of authority, and that continuity depends on the PMC as a whole. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] [[◀ Previous in Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|The Disappearing Mentor]] [[Next in Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability ▶|The Dormant TLP]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why is the PMC chair’s role different from traditional leadership positions? * How can a PMC avoid over-identifying project direction or stability with a single individual? * What practical steps ensure smooth administrative transitions? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] [[◀ Back to Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change|Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Remind the community that the PMC, not the chair, governs the project. The chair simply reports Board status and maintains records. * Encourage open nominations on the private@ list; any active PMC member can serve as chair. * View chair rotation as routine administration, not a leadership crisis. * Use this moment to refresh the PMC roster, documentation, and shared ownership of duties. * The outgoing chair can assist with handover but should allow the new chair to assume Board liaison responsibilities independently. [[◀ Back to Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change|Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "The Dormant TLP") (size:1.5)[The Dormant TLP] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability A project that graduated a year ago has grown nearly inactive. No releases are happening, mailing list traffic is low, and reports to the Board are sporadic. A few remaining committers still care deeply, but they aren’t sure how to re-engage the wider community. They worry that the Board may view the project as dormant. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: The Dormant TLP]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Dormant TLP]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] [[◀ Previous in Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — The Dormant TLP") (size:1.5)[Discuss — The Dormant TLP] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * What steps can a project take to revive activity after a long, quiet period? * When should a PMC consider seeking assistance from the Community Development or Brand Management teams? * How should the community approach retirement as a top-level project? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: The Dormant TLP]] [[◀ Back to The Dormant TLP|The Dormant TLP]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — The Dormant TLP") (size:1.5)[All Tips — The Dormant TLP] ''Group:'' Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Start a public thread inviting discussion on the project’s direction, goals, or maintenance plan. * Revisit the user base, mailing lists, GitHub issues, or social channels to identify new contributors or adopters. * If energy remains low, the PMC can explore options such as joining forces with another ASF project or retiring gracefully. * Treat dormancy discussions as part of responsible stewardship: transparency and honesty are core to long-term sustainability. [[◀ Back to The Dormant TLP|The Dormant TLP]] [[◀ Back to Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability|Group: Post-Graduation and Long-Term Sustainability]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Lessons Not Shared") (size:1.5)[Lessons Not Shared] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning A podling successfully graduates after two years of incubation. The community is proud and quickly moves on to new releases. However, the mentors realize that no one has documented what worked well, what didn’t, or what could help the next generation of podlings. Other incubating projects face similar challenges but have to rediscover the same lessons. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Lessons Not Shared]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Lessons Not Shared]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] [[Next in Reflection and Continuous Learning ▶|Mentor Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Lessons Not Shared") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Lessons Not Shared] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * Why is sharing lessons learned an important part of ASF culture? * How can projects capture experiences without creating extra bureaucracy? * What channels exist for sharing reflections within the ASF? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Lessons Not Shared]] [[◀ Back to Lessons Not Shared|Lessons Not Shared]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Lessons Not Shared") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Lessons Not Shared] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Add a short retrospective to the final incubation report or graduation announcement. * Contribute practical insights to the Incubator wiki, community blog, or ComDev resources. * Encourage future mentors and PPMCs to read and update training materials with real examples. * Remember that knowledge-sharing closes the loop, it turns personal experience into community improvement. [[◀ Back to Lessons Not Shared|Lessons Not Shared]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Mentor Growth") (size:1.5)[Mentor Growth] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning A long-time mentor realizes they’ve guided multiple podlings but haven’t revisited ASF policies or training in several years. New tools, procedures, and cultural expectations have evolved. They worry that their advice might be outdated or inconsistent with current practice. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Mentor Growth]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentor Growth]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] [[◀ Previous in Reflection and Continuous Learning|Lessons Not Shared]] [[Next in Reflection and Continuous Learning ▶|Improving the Incubation Experience]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Mentor Growth") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Mentor Growth] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can mentors maintain currency with ASF policy and community norms? * Why is self-reflection part of good mentorship? * What opportunities exist for mentors to keep learning? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Mentor Growth]] [[◀ Back to Mentor Growth|Mentor Growth]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Mentor Growth") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Mentor Growth] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Periodically review ASF training decks, updated Incubator policies, and board meeting summaries. * Participate in mentor discussions on general@incubator. * Pair with newer mentors to exchange perspectives and experiences, fresh eyes and seasoned insight complement each other. * Treat mentoring as mutual learning: every podling teaches something new about The Apache Way. [[◀ Back to Mentor Growth|Mentor Growth]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Improving the Incubation Experience") (size:1.5)[Improving the Incubation Experience] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning After several graduation reviews, mentors notice similar patterns repeating: podlings struggle with release policy, reporting consistency, and community diversity. Rather than treating each case in isolation, a few mentors suggest updating shared documentation or training materials. However, no one is sure who maintains them or how to propose improvements. [[Explore What You Would Do->Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience]] [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] [[◀ Previous in Reflection and Continuous Learning|Mentor Growth]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "Discuss — Improving the Incubation Experience") (size:1.5)[Discuss — Improving the Incubation Experience] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //Use these questions in a short thread; aim for lazy consensus then record the conclusion.// * How can mentors and IPMC members contribute back to improving the Incubator itself? * What channels exist for sharing observations or updating guidance? * Why is continuous improvement part of sustaining a healthy mentoring culture? ''Next:'' [[See Possible Mentor Approaches->Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience]] [[◀ Back to Improving the Incubation Experience|Improving the Incubation Experience]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "All Tips — Improving the Incubation Experience") (size:1.5)[All Tips — Improving the Incubation Experience] ''Group:'' Reflection and Continuous Learning //These aren’t rules; pick the smallest next step that fits your context.// * Raise suggestions or improvement threads on general@incubator.apache.org so the community can discuss and reach consensus. * Contribute edits directly to the Incubator wiki or Training site via pull requests or edit requests. * Share anonymized examples (like those in this guide) to help refine future training. * Remember: incubation is a two-way learning process. Each podling’s experience should make the next one’s journey smoother. [[◀ Back to Improving the Incubation Experience|Improving the Incubation Experience]] [[◀ Back to Reflection and Continuous Learning|Group: Reflection and Continuous Learning]] (if: (visited: "Discuss: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Tips: Lazy Consensus Gone Wrong") and (visited: "Discuss: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Tips: Ambiguous Vote Scope") and (visited: "Discuss: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Cross-List Release Vote Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Tips: The Off-List Decision") and (visited: "Discuss: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Silent Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Over-Involved Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: Unclear Boundaries Between Mentor and PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Tips: The Conflicted PPMC") and (visited: "Discuss: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Tips: The Unreliable Narrator") and (visited: "Discuss: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Tips: The Glossed-Over Report") and (visited: "Discuss: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Tips: Unrealistic Expectations of ASF Infrastructure") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Tips: Mentors Added for the Wrong Reasons") and (visited: "Discuss: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Tips: Delayed Mentor Escalation") and (visited: "Discuss: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Tips: Conflicting Mentor Advice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Tips: The Heated Thread") and (visited: "Discuss: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Tips: Private Discussions and Missing Context") and (visited: "Discuss: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Tips: Cultural Misunderstanding") and (visited: "Discuss: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Tips: The Single-Maintainer Risk") and (visited: "Discuss: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Tips: The Employer-Dominated Podling") and (visited: "Discuss: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Tips: Quiet Lists, Fading Energy") and (visited: "Discuss: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Tips: The Overlooked Contributor") and (visited: "Discuss: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Tips: The Reluctant Leader") and (visited: "Discuss: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Tips: Corporate Withdrawal and Loss of Momentum") and (visited: "Discuss: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Tips: Ready… or Rushed?") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Dependency") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Vote") and (visited: "Discuss: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Tips: The Graduation Surprise") and (visited: "Discuss: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Tips: Branding Confusion") and (visited: "Discuss: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Tips: Missing License Headers") and (visited: "Discuss: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Tips: Handling Contributor Data") and (visited: "Discuss: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Tips: Brand and Governance Blur") and (visited: "Discuss: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Tips: Release Hygiene in Practice") and (visited: "Discuss: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Tips: The Disappearing Mentor") and (visited: "Discuss: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Tips: Chair Transition, Not Leadership Change") and (visited: "Discuss: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Tips: The Dormant TLP") and (visited: "Discuss: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Tips: Lessons Not Shared") and (visited: "Discuss: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Tips: Mentor Growth") and (visited: "Discuss: Improving the Incubation Experience") and (visited: "Tips: Improving the Incubation Experience"))[[Finish->End]]

(set: $here to "End") Congrats on completing this micro-course on the Apache Way! For more on the Apache Way see (link: "The Apache Way")[(goto-url: "https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/")].